Category: Thoughts & quotes from Sir David R. Hawkins, M.D., Ph.D. & Susan Hawkins

Susan: Today we’re going to speak on what is meant by spiritual.

Dr. Hawkins: Oh my, that’s a tough one. Religion is easy. Spiritual is the essence of religion. Spiritual means the realization that one’s reality is beyond the physical, that it involves other realms. These other realms are different qualities, nonphysicality, nonlocality. To feel the presence of God is so overwhelming, but there’s no way of explaining it. If a person has never had the experience of the presence of divinity, it’s very hard to explain to them. But you can attempt that a great feeling of beatitude and beauty and you’re aware that there is an infinite presence.

The infinite presence becomes overwhelming and dominates all that exists. And then as one’s talking at you, you realize that that same spirit is what is speaking through you, what is speaking through me right now, is of divine origin. The spiritual energy of the Ultimate Reality segments down, you might say, to the time, the place and the individual. But it’s ruled by intention. Intention is to rise to the highest possible level of awareness for the purpose of communication and because that level has a certain energy. So what I’m saying right now is comprehensible to many people who calibrate above a certain level and incomprehensible to people who calibrate below that level.

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Q: Is the ego ‘wrong’?

A: The problem with the ego is not that it is wrong; it is just that it is limited and distorted. To conceive of the ego as an enemy is to become polarized, bringing forth conflict, guilt, anger, and shame. Positionalities support the ego. By enlarging context, opposites are transcended and problems are dissolved. Humility removes the ego’s underpinnings of judgmentalism, positionality, and moralizing. In Reality, there can no longer be opposites any more than there can be winners or losers.
The Eye of the I, ch. 12, pg. 244

I thought that this exchange between Dave and I was a good example of the difference between forgiveness and actually surrendering your perception of the event or person.

Susan: When you say to pray to the Holy Spirit for a miracle to see the truth about a situation or a person, are we to forgive that person if there was a conflict or just accept them for what it is?

Dr. Hawkins: No, because you’re still seeing them the same way or you wouldn’t be forgiving them. Through “The Course in Miracles” for instance,  the miraculous occurs, but not as the consequence of how you’re seeing it, because you may still see it the same way and yet it happens. So when I ask for a miracle, I’m surrendering my perception of how I see it and then it’s transformed. And when it’s transformed, I see that it still is loveable, yeah. I see that somebody I’m angry at cannot help but be that way. So now instead of hating them or being angry, I feel sorry for them and I say it’s too bad that they can’t see it the way I’m seeing it. Because I know their life is painful the way they are seeing the world and when they see it my way, the world stops being painful. Yes, uh, huh.

Susan: OK

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We fear that the inner voyage of discovery will lead us to some dreadful, awful truth. In its programming of our minds, this is one of the barriers that the world has set up to prevent us from finding out the real truth. There is one thing the world does not want us to find out and that is the truth about ourselves. Why? Because then we will become free. We can no longer be controlled, manipulated, exploited, drained, enslaved, imprisoned, vilified, or disempowered. Therefore, the inner voyage of discovery is cloaked over with an aura of mystery and foreboding.

What is the real truth about this voyage? The real truth is that, as we go within and discards one illusion after another, one falsehood after another, one negative program after another, it gets lighter and lighter. The awareness of the presence of love becomes stronger and stronger. We will feel lighter and lighter. Life becomes progressively more effortless.

from Letting Go, ch. 6, pg. 106

I thought this conversation between Dave and I was fitting on this Halloween.

Susan: How would you say is the best way to teach children about spirituality?

Dr. Hawkins: Well, I think teaching the value of love. I think the reverence in which we hold spiritual figures, Jesus Christ and the Saints and how all of society holds God. So I believe in teaching children from very early on about God and Jesus Christ and saints and good persons and the value of going to church and how we love the clergy, we love the priests and we love the nuns. We love them all those who help the church. The reverence in which society holds the spiritual domain. The reverence in which the integrous members of society hold it.

Other people, it’s their enemy. Holiness and spirituality and that which is Divinity is the enemy of people that are anti-God. There’s a lot of people that hate God and hate Divinity and hate spirituality and they exist in every religion. They hate Muslims, they hate Christians. So a good deal of hatred gets mixed into their religious sectarianism. So it’s very paradoxical, you know. Hate people who picture God in a different style than you than what you do so, you hate them. It’s tragicomic, tragic comical.

Susan: What is the spiritual significance of a couple choosing not to have children?

Dr. Hawkins: It’s not necessary. They might do it for spiritual reasons if they thought that having the children was going to interfere the spiritual design of their life. But that would be a selection that everybody makes, whether to get married or not in the first place and then whether to have children or not and the part that spirituality plays in that.

Nuns and priests don’t have children, you know. Well, priests do, in the Episcopal church, you know. Well, Catholic priests don’t. So in some churches you can’t have a family and other churches like Episcopal, you can have a family. So, it’s how it’s pictured. It can be pictured as a positive contributor to one’s spiritual dimension or could be pictured as retarding it. I think it’s how you hold it in your mind. I don’t think it is intrinsically is one way or the other.

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